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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2009/01/20/non-us-video-hosting-options/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Denver</description>
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		<title>By: Denver Gingerich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denver Gingerich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, http://video.ca/ is *not* located in Canada.  You can verify this by finding its IP address (209.40.200.35):

http://www.tracert.com/resolve_exe.html?arg=video.ca (using http://www.tracert.com/resolver.html )

Then enter that address into an IP geolocator or other IP whois tool:

http://www.ip2location.com/209.40.200.35
http://tools.whois.net/index.php?fuseaction=whois.whoisbyipresults&amp;host=209.40.200.35

From these it seems that http://video.ca/ is hosted by Spry Hosting on servers located in Seattle, Washington.  This is most likely where the user data is stored, too.

In the future, I recommend using these tools to verify where a web site is hosted.  This can avoid a lot of informational mistakes.

If you do happen to find a video hosting site located in Canada, I&#039;d be interested in knowing about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, <a href="http://video.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://video.ca/</a> is *not* located in Canada.  You can verify this by finding its IP address (209.40.200.35):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tracert.com/resolve_exe.html?arg=video.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.tracert.com/resolve_exe.html?arg=video.ca</a> (using <a href="http://www.tracert.com/resolver.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tracert.com/resolver.html</a> )</p>
<p>Then enter that address into an IP geolocator or other IP whois tool:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ip2location.com/209.40.200.35" rel="nofollow">http://www.ip2location.com/209.40.200.35</a><br />
<a href="http://tools.whois.net/index.php?fuseaction=whois.whoisbyipresults&#038;host=209.40.200.35" rel="nofollow">http://tools.whois.net/index.php?fuseaction=whois.whoisbyipresults&#038;host=209.40.200.35</a></p>
<p>From these it seems that <a href="http://video.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://video.ca/</a> is hosted by Spry Hosting on servers located in Seattle, Washington.  This is most likely where the user data is stored, too.</p>
<p>In the future, I recommend using these tools to verify where a web site is hosted.  This can avoid a lot of informational mistakes.</p>
<p>If you do happen to find a video hosting site located in Canada, I&#8217;d be interested in knowing about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone&#039;s following this thread, or for future reference, http://www.openvideoalliance.org/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Open_Source_Video_Software#Distributionwas just passed along to me, the biggest list of open source video distribution software I had ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone&#8217;s following this thread, or for future reference, <a href="http://www.openvideoalliance.org/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Open_Source_Video_Software#Distributionwas" rel="nofollow">http://www.openvideoalliance.org/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Open_Source_Video_Software#Distributionwas</a> just passed along to me, the biggest list of open source video distribution software I had ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Dzoic ClipHouse Review</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2009/01/20/non-us-video-hosting-options/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Dzoic ClipHouse Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; OLDaily por Stephen Downes, enero 20, 2009 TIC, E/A, PER&#8230;:</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; OLDaily por Stephen Downes, enero 20, 2009 TIC, E/A, PER&#8230;:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] video.ca, un sitio para albergar video conferencias. Scott Leslie, EdTechPost, January 20, 2009 [Liga] [etiquetas: Estados Unidos, temas de privacidad, aprendizaje Online, Video, Canada, Wikipedia, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] video.ca, un sitio para albergar video conferencias. Scott Leslie, EdTechPost, January 20, 2009 [Liga] [etiquetas: Estados Unidos, temas de privacidad, aprendizaje Online, Video, Canada, Wikipedia, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2009/01/20/non-us-video-hosting-options/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott MC - fair enough (about sites disappearing), I agree, it is one of the dangers of using free 3rd party solutions and one we need to balance against what I started off describing by reference to Jenkins, the reasons for using larger, public sites. The flip side, continuing to use only on-campus systems, seems not tenable, both from the perspective over oover-extended IT departments, but also again because they have these articial limits that make them ultimately less useful and less used.

But thanks for the tip on the Wordpress Video Framework, deinitely another one to add to the list, open source and based on my favourite software. So nice one! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott MC &#8211; fair enough (about sites disappearing), I agree, it is one of the dangers of using free 3rd party solutions and one we need to balance against what I started off describing by reference to Jenkins, the reasons for using larger, public sites. The flip side, continuing to use only on-campus systems, seems not tenable, both from the perspective over oover-extended IT departments, but also again because they have these articial limits that make them ultimately less useful and less used.</p>
<p>But thanks for the tip on the WordPress Video Framework, deinitely another one to add to the list, open source and based on my favourite software. So nice one! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes the evil patriot act... we should block google on campus then pretty sure they are mining more than your email. also Visa should be banned...

More concerning than the Patriot Act I often wonder how many of these Web 2.0 video sites will  be around in a year a two. Reason why I don&#039;t really recommend anything besides YouTube .

You forgot the new Wordpress Video Framework looks very promising Wordpress.tv is proof of this. Could be a quick way for campuses to get their own system rolling and they could archive their own files...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes the evil patriot act&#8230; we should block google on campus then pretty sure they are mining more than your email. also Visa should be banned&#8230;</p>
<p>More concerning than the Patriot Act I often wonder how many of these Web 2.0 video sites will  be around in a year a two. Reason why I don&#8217;t really recommend anything besides YouTube .</p>
<p>You forgot the new WordPress Video Framework looks very promising WordPress.tv is proof of this. Could be a quick way for campuses to get their own system rolling and they could archive their own files&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm, thanks Brad. yeah, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm, thanks Brad. yeah, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I didn&#039;t understand the law you were referring to.

So for reciprocity&#039;s sake I should go to my Congressman and ask him to introduce a law that says US public institutions should not be allowed to store personal or sensitive data outside the USA since the government of wherever it is located can appropriate the information according to that location&#039;s laws?

I guess we could end up with a Canadanet and a USAnet and a ChinaNet --- I don&#039;t like where this is going.

I think I would rather be a citizen of the Internet than either of these two places.

It does rather beg the question of whether certain people in certain places are already reading what is on certain servers, either by direct access, or as the data is transferred through networks.

No, I am not trying to pick a fight, or even criticise the law. Canada&#039;s law is Canada&#039;s business.

I think someday it will be illegal to restrict information access by any person in the world, and people who attempt to do so, whether they use government as an excuse or not, will be prevented from doing so. (I have a dream.)

And it will be a far, far better world - but a little more turbulent at first until people get used to it.

I am for freedom of speech and privacy, but a part of me still wishes the FBI had read that PC hard drive and prevented 9/11 from ever happening.

Youtube is really a fairly simple application, you should be able to do a homegrown clone pretty easily - it might be harder getting your students to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I didn&#8217;t understand the law you were referring to.</p>
<p>So for reciprocity&#8217;s sake I should go to my Congressman and ask him to introduce a law that says US public institutions should not be allowed to store personal or sensitive data outside the USA since the government of wherever it is located can appropriate the information according to that location&#8217;s laws?</p>
<p>I guess we could end up with a Canadanet and a USAnet and a ChinaNet &#8212; I don&#8217;t like where this is going.</p>
<p>I think I would rather be a citizen of the Internet than either of these two places.</p>
<p>It does rather beg the question of whether certain people in certain places are already reading what is on certain servers, either by direct access, or as the data is transferred through networks.</p>
<p>No, I am not trying to pick a fight, or even criticise the law. Canada&#8217;s law is Canada&#8217;s business.</p>
<p>I think someday it will be illegal to restrict information access by any person in the world, and people who attempt to do so, whether they use government as an excuse or not, will be prevented from doing so. (I have a dream.)</p>
<p>And it will be a far, far better world &#8211; but a little more turbulent at first until people get used to it.</p>
<p>I am for freedom of speech and privacy, but a part of me still wishes the FBI had read that PC hard drive and prevented 9/11 from ever happening.</p>
<p>Youtube is really a fairly simple application, you should be able to do a homegrown clone pretty easily &#8211; it might be harder getting your students to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bard, wha? BC Privacy regulations state that BC public institutions (including all schools and public post-secondary institutions) are not allowed to store sensitive data on servers either located in the US or controlled by US companies, who would be subject to the Patriot Act (meaning a foreign govternment could compel that company to give up info on Canadian users.) Most provinces (and many other countries) have similar considerations.

Many BC institutions are interpreting &#039;sensitive data&#039; to include email addresses and possibly just names. So to the extent that having an account on Youtube (or any other US-based service) requires a student to provide an email address or personal info, we can&#039;t use them in the context of higher ed. Hence the concern that motivated this post.

Edtechpost is a) my *personal* blog, not run by a public institution, not subject to FOI/POP regs and b) is in Canada anyways, so not subject to the Patriot act (I&#039;m sure the Canadian security services could compel me to give them up, but they could do that to anyone for the right reason).

I *am* trusting that this isn&#039;t a troll, but not sure I am getting what you&#039;re not getting. Hope this helps, Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bard, wha? BC Privacy regulations state that BC public institutions (including all schools and public post-secondary institutions) are not allowed to store sensitive data on servers either located in the US or controlled by US companies, who would be subject to the Patriot Act (meaning a foreign govternment could compel that company to give up info on Canadian users.) Most provinces (and many other countries) have similar considerations.</p>
<p>Many BC institutions are interpreting &#8216;sensitive data&#8217; to include email addresses and possibly just names. So to the extent that having an account on Youtube (or any other US-based service) requires a student to provide an email address or personal info, we can&#8217;t use them in the context of higher ed. Hence the concern that motivated this post.</p>
<p>Edtechpost is a) my *personal* blog, not run by a public institution, not subject to FOI/POP regs and b) is in Canada anyways, so not subject to the Patriot act (I&#8217;m sure the Canadian security services could compel me to give them up, but they could do that to anyone for the right reason).</p>
<p>I *am* trusting that this isn&#8217;t a troll, but not sure I am getting what you&#8217;re not getting. Hope this helps, Scott</p>
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