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		<title>By: links for 2008-03-29 : Camille&#8217;s Conversations</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-03-29 : Camille&#8217;s Conversations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What this slow learner learned at Northern Voice - The 2008 Edition at EdTechPost (tags: open education) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 180 seconds to an online &#8220;scrapbook&#8221; (or, &#8220;On the importance of simplicity&#8221;) at EdTechPost</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/02/26/northern-voice-08/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>180 seconds to an online &#8220;scrapbook&#8221; (or, &#8220;On the importance of simplicity&#8221;) at EdTechPost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is a post I shouldn&#8217;t need to write. It is too obvious. Indeed, here&#8217;s the conclusion up front: People like simple-to-use tools. If you give them simple, easy to understand tools, they will use them. (They will also use complicated tools anyways if their needs are strong enough, and always use tools in ways you never expected, but those are different posts.) You will not need to provide help documentation, training sessions, or PD release time. They will just use them. You will probably be threatened by the results. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a post I shouldn&#8217;t need to write. It is too obvious. Indeed, here&#8217;s the conclusion up front: People like simple-to-use tools. If you give them simple, easy to understand tools, they will use them. (They will also use complicated tools anyways if their needs are strong enough, and always use tools in ways you never expected, but those are different posts.) You will not need to provide help documentation, training sessions, or PD release time. They will just use them. You will probably be threatened by the results. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not Left To Chance :: Category: open :: March :: 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Left To Chance :: Category: open :: March :: 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m in the middle of writing a paper. This post isn&#8217;t a form of procrastination, I&#8217;m thinking outside the paper and wanted to get these excess thoughts out. I made a comment the other day on edtechpost about &quot;open hearts&quot; and &quot;open education/source/society and so on&quot; and wanted to write a little more here about that. (This is almost going to be point form.) I read a line today from Gramsci&#8217;s Notebooks. (I&#8217;ll pull the quote later)&#160; Politically, although the option doesn&#8217;t exist on Facebook, I&#8217;d dance with the Utopian Anarchists, which means I&#8217;m very sensitive to control freaks (including my own) and very interested in the &quot;open&quot; movements. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m in the middle of writing a paper. This post isn&#8217;t a form of procrastination, I&#8217;m thinking outside the paper and wanted to get these excess thoughts out. I made a comment the other day on edtechpost about &quot;open hearts&quot; and &quot;open education/source/society and so on&quot; and wanted to write a little more here about that. (This is almost going to be point form.) I read a line today from Gramsci&#8217;s Notebooks. (I&#8217;ll pull the quote later)&nbsp; Politically, although the option doesn&#8217;t exist on Facebook, I&#8217;d dance with the Utopian Anarchists, which means I&#8217;m very sensitive to control freaks (including my own) and very interested in the &quot;open&quot; movements. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 益学会 &#62; OLDaily 中文版 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008年2月26日：讲座视频，Blackboard专利权诉讼案，Edublog论坛，信息可视化，SecondBrain</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/02/26/northern-voice-08/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>益学会 &#62; OLDaily 中文版 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008年2月26日：讲座视频，Blackboard专利权诉讼案，Edublog论坛，信息可视化，SecondBrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 这个反应迟钝的学习者在Northern Voice学习到了什么——2008版  Northern Voice会议上周末在阳光明媚的温哥华召开。Scott Leslie讲述了他自己的部分课程(我欣赏这篇博客日志里的不确定性——而Leslie，可不是什么反应迟钝的学习者，他是这群人中最聪明的人之一)。“那么，我们作为工具制造者的部分职责是制造满足他们需求的工具，这些工具有用是因为它们的各种用途，而并非因为设计者的意图。”Scott Leslie, EdTechPost February 26, 2008 [原文链接] [Tags: Web Logs] [参与评论] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 这个反应迟钝的学习者在Northern Voice学习到了什么——2008版  Northern Voice会议上周末在阳光明媚的温哥华召开。Scott Leslie讲述了他自己的部分课程(我欣赏这篇博客日志里的不确定性——而Leslie，可不是什么反应迟钝的学习者，他是这群人中最聪明的人之一)。“那么，我们作为工具制造者的部分职责是制造满足他们需求的工具，这些工具有用是因为它们的各种用途，而并非因为设计者的意图。”Scott Leslie, EdTechPost February 26, 2008 [原文链接] [Tags: Web Logs] [参与评论] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rodger Levesque</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/02/26/northern-voice-08/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodger Levesque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scott, made my way here through OLDaily. &quot;Welcoming Hearts&quot; and the &quot;Open Movements&quot; are worth thinking about. How we interact with society -- and how society &quot;is&quot; -- and how we want society &quot;to be(come)&quot; are areas of many contradictions in practice and theory. How is open online different from open live? Is &quot;open&quot; synonymous with &quot;exposed&quot;? This movement toward online presence must be changing notions of privacy and identity. Open source is changing notions of ownership. These notions are the stuff of identity/hearts. They are worth thinking about. Thanks for putting it out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott, made my way here through OLDaily. &#8220;Welcoming Hearts&#8221; and the &#8220;Open Movements&#8221; are worth thinking about. How we interact with society &#8212; and how society &#8220;is&#8221; &#8212; and how we want society &#8220;to be(come)&#8221; are areas of many contradictions in practice and theory. How is open online different from open live? Is &#8220;open&#8221; synonymous with &#8220;exposed&#8221;? This movement toward online presence must be changing notions of privacy and identity. Open source is changing notions of ownership. These notions are the stuff of identity/hearts. They are worth thinking about. Thanks for putting it out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Noakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Noakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I think ingenuity (Jennifer Jones) got the video of Brian doing WebCT on ustream.tv, althoug the audio may be a bit broken up.

http://www.ustream.tv/injenuity/videos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I think ingenuity (Jennifer Jones) got the video of Brian doing WebCT on ustream.tv, althoug the audio may be a bit broken up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ustream.tv/injenuity/videos" rel="nofollow">http://www.ustream.tv/injenuity/videos</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/02/26/northern-voice-08/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post. Your comments about the motivation of people to use the tools really resonated with me because this is a theme that is following me around the place.Mt question that I am currently &#039;struggling &#039; with is how to encourage that motivation. cheers Sarah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post. Your comments about the motivation of people to use the tools really resonated with me because this is a theme that is following me around the place.Mt question that I am currently &#8216;struggling &#8216; with is how to encourage that motivation. cheers Sarah</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim and Nancy - thanks. I am not surprised with my reflections being met with sensitive ears and understanding words, just grateful for them. It is always a small act of courage to put myself out there honestly - warts, unformed thoughts, slow learning and all - and reactions like both of yours help me to do it again, go further, learn more. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim and Nancy &#8211; thanks. I am not surprised with my reflections being met with sensitive ears and understanding words, just grateful for them. It is always a small act of courage to put myself out there honestly &#8211; warts, unformed thoughts, slow learning and all &#8211; and reactions like both of yours help me to do it again, go further, learn more. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy White</title>
		<link>http://www.edtechpost.ca/wordpress/2008/02/26/northern-voice-08/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey POET and MUSICIAN EDU-GEEK man! I agree with the Rev, your reading Thursday night, both the content and your performance, were amazing.

Wow, as I read these NVoice reflection pieces they are blowing me away. There is such a strong thread across them. It seems we are digging into the core, the guts of living as much as the core of code and education. I don&#039;t know if you read the post on my blog about my moment of learning by accidentally stepping on another human heart, but it hit to that same note. These moments of very human discovery.

I am so glad you took my question with your big open heart. By the way, I did not hear anything obnoxious about your assertion. You just triggered a question in me because I think I shared the same assumptions you do most of the time. When we are drinking our own KoolAid, it is easy to do. But if we don&#039;t drink the KoolAid, man, we don&#039;t see the visions, the possibilities!

I&#039;d like to add that defensiveness has a role in my life. It is a form of protection and sometimes I really NEED It. For me, it is just staying aware of it, using it rather than letting it use me. When I get defensive, if I take a breath, I hear the signal &quot;something to learn!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey POET and MUSICIAN EDU-GEEK man! I agree with the Rev, your reading Thursday night, both the content and your performance, were amazing.</p>
<p>Wow, as I read these NVoice reflection pieces they are blowing me away. There is such a strong thread across them. It seems we are digging into the core, the guts of living as much as the core of code and education. I don&#8217;t know if you read the post on my blog about my moment of learning by accidentally stepping on another human heart, but it hit to that same note. These moments of very human discovery.</p>
<p>I am so glad you took my question with your big open heart. By the way, I did not hear anything obnoxious about your assertion. You just triggered a question in me because I think I shared the same assumptions you do most of the time. When we are drinking our own KoolAid, it is easy to do. But if we don&#8217;t drink the KoolAid, man, we don&#8217;t see the visions, the possibilities!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add that defensiveness has a role in my life. It is a form of protection and sometimes I really NEED It. For me, it is just staying aware of it, using it rather than letting it use me. When I get defensive, if I take a breath, I hear the signal &#8220;something to learn!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trackback Love was a monument of this year&#039;s NV for me. You were enfuego, more than that I thought the discussion in The Blog is Dead session was powerful for the fact that this group was able to both challenge and listen to one another, and your discussion there made it all that much more valuable.  I&#039;d hate to go to a conference that is about consensus, for as much as we share ideas, we also believe them or define them differently and I realized, like you, just how important it is to remain uncomfortably within the differences rather than trying to erase them and pretend the world is flat.  For I sure as shit know that you&#039;re all too complex to be considered anything close to flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trackback Love was a monument of this year&#8217;s NV for me. You were enfuego, more than that I thought the discussion in The Blog is Dead session was powerful for the fact that this group was able to both challenge and listen to one another, and your discussion there made it all that much more valuable.  I&#8217;d hate to go to a conference that is about consensus, for as much as we share ideas, we also believe them or define them differently and I realized, like you, just how important it is to remain uncomfortably within the differences rather than trying to erase them and pretend the world is flat.  For I sure as shit know that you&#8217;re all too complex to be considered anything close to flat.</p>
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